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In polls of classical music listeners, Prokofiev is regularly selected
among the top ten favorite composers of all time. In fact, about 20 years
ago in my hometown here in the United States, listeners picked your
father first, above even Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, and all the others!
This sentiment has been expressed by many all around the world. It is an
extraordinary testament to the greatness and timelessness of your father's
music. Why do you think his music has such universal appeal?
Sviatoslav Prokofiev: Prokofiev is
my favorite composer too! His music is a synthesis of a new melodic language
and contemporary rhythms.
Having lived in both the Soviet Union and in the West, can you tell
us the difference between how your father's music was viewed in the
Soviet Union and in the West?
In the Soviet Union Prokofiev was viewed firstly as a national
composer. In the West, as an outstanding contemporary composer.
How would you assess your father's music versus the other greats
of the 20th Century?
My father's music is much nearer to me than the music of the other greats of the 20th century.
So I put it in first place.
What was it like growing up in Paris in the 1920s and 30s?
My impressions are of course those of a child. I was born in Paris in
1924. Anyhow I remember my childhood as quite a happy one. From 1930 we
lived in a nice apartment in a quite bourgeois district of Paris. With
my brother Oleg we had a big children's room where we played and slept. I
often heard my father at the piano -- composing or preparing himself for
a concert and sometimes my mother singing. All this made a very nice
domestic background which I remembered all my life with great nostalgia
and love. I went to a good private half boarding-school, Ecole
Tannenberg, where I had many friends, some of whom I met now again after
60 years!
I enjoyed very much going with the entire family to the south of France at
the seashore for summer vacations, very often going there by car -- my
father adored driving. He had first a Ballo, and then a Chevrolet.
During vacations we had the opportunity to spend much more time
together with our parents -- resting, walking, swimming and having meals
together with my father who always told us about interesting things. I
suppose that the memory of these happy days that I lived then in France
was decisive for my choice of living in France now.
You moved apartments almost yearly, sometimes even
staying in hotels. How difficult was that on you and the family?
Of course it created difficulties, especially for my parents, but I
do not remember details except about one or two of those apartments and
particularly the gardens when we lived in houses out of town. There
occured my first unforgettable contacts with nature, helped by my father,
who showed me flowers, birds and funny insects. Though I was still very
young we sometimes had curious conversations which remained in the
family. Once when we were walking with my father in a park our path
diverged and suddenly we began to walk in parallel, and I exclaimed:
"Look, father: everyone goes by his own way - you have your way and I
have my way!"
What did you want to be when you were growing up?
As a child I wanted to be an engineer and even told my father that it would be better to create
a new machine that could reach the Moon than to compose a new symphony. Now I am ashamed
of my words and I am of the opposite opinion! Later, when it was discovered that I could draw,
I was admitted into the Architectural Institute of Moscow and I do not regret it now, because
I had an opportunity to study the basics of fine art and art history, and fell in love
with them.
There is a picture of you at age 5 with Lina, Sergei and Stravinsky
taken at the magnificent Chateau de la Fléchère. Do you remember
Stravinsky? What was he like? What did your father think of him?
Yes. I remember the day and the photo you mentioned when we lived at
the medieval Chateau de la Fléchère the summer of 1929. In the morning
I heard grown-ups constantly repeating the name of Stravinsky. I was very
interested and asked my father, "What is Stravinsky?". When at last
Stravinsky came, my father repeated my question to our guest. Stravinsky
laughed and came to see me saying: "Here, look, this is Stravinsky,
that's me, do you see me?" Everybody was delighted.
I met Stravinsky for the last time when he came to Moscow in the autumn of 1962.
After a concert, my mother and I accompanied Stravinsky and his wife
to the hotel that was situated next to the concert hall. I walked next to
him. He suddenly put his arm on my shoulder and told me in Russian: "You
know we were great friends with your father!" The relationship between
Stravinsky and Prokofiev was quite friendly in the twenties. My father
esteemed very much Stravinsky, who was nine years older. He showed him his
works, asked his advice and vice versa, and listened with great interest
to his music. Diaghilev called them "my two sons - Igor and Sergei." But
his two sons soon became rivals and their relations became more
complicated, especialy after the death of Diaghilev. Stravinsky
criticized some works of Prokofiev, my father did not like the
"neoclassical" period of Stravinsky.
At the time, your father was at the peak of his popularity in
the West, in great demand both as a pianist and composer. Did you
attend any of his concerts? What were they like?
I would like to recall three of my father's concerts
that I attended. The first one was in Monte Carlo. At that time I lived with my
grandmother (Lina's mother) not far away from Cannes. My parents decided to take
me to father's concert for the first time. All of the grown-ups were nervous --
they were afraid that during the concert, out of silence, I would suddenly yell: "Daddy!"
But everything went fine. I was amazed. Nevertheless, it was very seldom that I was
taken to concerts later on.
Another memorable performance of my father took place
in Moscow in 1939, in the school that I attended then. A concert was organized
for children to celebrate some holiday, with many performers, including my father,
participating. I was very nervous, I wondered how other students would react to that.
For some reason, I was nicknamed "American" (meaning "a foreigner", that is). Father,
smiling and elegant, came out onto the stage, quickly played several simple pieces,
finished with a March from The
Love for Three Oranges and, when leaving, even waved his hand
out of best intentions. Everybody applauded. For some reason, I felt very uncomfortable
in this environment. Later on I got a second nickname - "composer!"
At the last concert, Father performed as a conductor of his just-finished Fifth
Symphony. It was at the end of the war - January 1945, another victory of the Soviet
Army over the German Army was celebrated, in honor of which a salute by artillery and fireworks was given
in Moscow. Coincidentally, the artillery started when Prokofiev was already on the stage
and was standing in a solemn posture behind the conductor's stand. He waited till the
thundering salute was over, and then started the performing of his Fifth Symphony that
was in some way related to the war. The success was tremendous. It was the last public performance
of my father. Unfortunately, our relations were not yet re-established since he had left home
in 1941 and we did not meet that evening.
How did your father prepare for a concert?
Since I was almost always away at school in the afternoon, I did not have a complete
picture of how my father prepared for his concerts. As a rule, he worked during the
first half of the day. I remember him "polishing up" the difficult parts of a program
before the concert, repeating some passages many times over.
I can still hear him playing the little-known Suite of Waltzes by Schubert,
especially the recurring introduction theme; the Second Sonata for Piano -
one of my favorites; the Fourth
Sonata for Piano with its nostalgic Andante; the brilliant Third
Concerto for Piano, which he recorded on disk in London in 1932 as performed by himself.
Except for some of his concert tours in America, I believe
your father played his own music exclusively in his
recitals. How would you rate him as a composer-pianist during
his time versus others such as Rachmaninov?
Surely, Prokofiev and Rachmaninov are very different, one could even say antithetical composers.
What they probably have in common is that they are both composer-pianists, who, as a rule, play their
pieces very differently from professional pianists, even the great ones. Prokofiev generally played
his pieces promoting them all over the world. In his own recordings he showed everybody how
Prokofiev's music should be played. I am still astonished that lately the famous pianists started
to slow down the tempo of the slow parts of Prokofiev's piano sonatas and concertos so much! By
doing that his optimistic and life-asserting music is simply falling apart. Listen, for example,
how the slow parts of the Third Concerto for Piano are played, and compare it to the composer's own
performance -- especially since it exists!
It is also well-known that he was a tireless worker while
composing -- meticulous and fastidious, sometimes to the detriment
of his own health. Tell us your memories of how he composed his music.
It's hard for me to say how my father composed his music, but I can confirm that he did it
systematically, selflessly and even pedantically. He began working in the morning. Since
I left early for school, he often left notes asking me to wake him up. He always slept in
the afternoon after lunch. He even had a special electric machine that buzzed monotonously,
helping him to fall asleep.
He usually reserved the second half of the day for easier things -- for example, for
corrections or answering letters, which he had a lot of. He always replied to the point,
interestingly and wittily. To be energetic and to help his thinking, father always took
daily walks; long ones when he lived in the countryside, and along a certain route when
in the city, sometimes checking the speed by his watch.
In his pocket was always a notebook, within which he would jot down whatever
ideas came to his head for future use, even those having nothing do to with
his compositions.
In his later years when father was seriously ill, as he lay in the hospital bed, he would
write down ideas that came to him on scraps of paper, which caused conflicts with
his doctors, who had forbidden him from working. Father replied, "All the same, I think
that you cannot forbid me from doing this. If I don't write down the ideas, I expend more
strength and energy trying not to forget them."
What was he like as a father during those years? How do you
best remember him?
Most often I remember my Dad as I knew him as a kid. He was a very caring, kind, but strict and
demanding father, especially when we kids were too noisy when he worked. Sometimes father
participated in our games. When grandmother gave me an electric toy train with lots of railroad tracks,
father enthusiastically advised me how to place the rails in my room (for example, under the bed!)
and which wagons to hitch, and later he bought me another locomotive. Father used to take me with
him on walks (my brother was yet too young) during which he little by little was educating
me. I clearly remember an unforgettable evening in Saint-Maxime, in the South of France, when
father and I went for a walk and he named the stars and constellations. In his youth he was
fond of astronomy and even had a telescope!
Receiving a lot of correspondence from all over the world, he put the stamps of different
countries away into a round metallic box and then gradually gave them to me as
encouragement. He advised me how to place them in an album, and together we looked up
the country and its capital on a big world map that he had hung on a wall in
the children's room. This instilled in me a love of history, geography and traveling.
Besides playing chess, he liked to play the "sea battle" (morskoi boi) with us, while
making the rules more and more complicated.
In summer our contact was much closer. Father used to rent a villa in the south
of France on the shore of the Mediterranean Sea or the Atlantic Ocean for all of our
vacations. Especially memorable was Jacques Sadoul's villa "Les pins parasols"
with a giant umbrellate pine in front of the house and a wonderful panorama of
the sea and the surrounding mountains. We used to walk together more frequently
then, and the whole family went to the beach to swim almost every day. Dad was
diligently showing me how to swim on my back, and I was proud of swimming better.
And Mother swam a very long distance away!
Once, in 1929, in Savoy near Switzerland father rented for the summer a real mediaeval
castle with towers and thick walls - Chateau de la Fléchère. It is there that Stravinsky
who vacationed nearby came to visit us while we paid visits in reply and also went to
see Koussevitsky, who also lived nearby.
While being fascinated by Christian Science, father decided to get down to my
religious education and started to take me on Sundays to Sunday School at the Church
of Christian Science in Paris that he was attending in the twenties and thirties.
We used to walk there from home on foot or sometimes drive in father's Chevrolet. The
church looked quite secular -- it was a kind of a lecture hall in which sermons for
adults were given and hymns sung in chorus. Father harshly criticized the music of
the hymns and thought of composing them himself but never realized this idea. The
children were assembled separately. We were sitting at a big table and the meaning
of the day's subject was popularly explained to us. In addition, an assignment for the next
Sunday was given -- to read an excerpt from the Bible, the New Testament or the book
of the founder of Christian Science, Mary Baker Eddy, "Science and Health". While
we were returning father would ask me questions or explain the obscure or would keep
silent, immersed in his own thoughts.
I remember well father in the last years of his life, in the 1950s when I was
visiting him in his dacha near Moscow. He was already a completely different man,
sort of resigned, with a sad look. One can clearly see how he has changed in the
photo of father I took in Nikolina Gora in the fall of 1952. This photo turned out to be his
last one. It is painful for me to look at it.
Did your father ever teach you and Oleg to play the piano?
Father did not teach us to play the piano. There was no idyllic scene "The great composer
teaches his children." I must say that although he had a lot of different talents, he was
no teacher. It became evident later when he was offered a job teaching at the Moscow Conservatory --
nothing came out of it. As for Oleg and me, a music teacher (solfeggio and piano), was hired
who tutored us while he was away. Mme Alard was calm and patient, but everything was in vain.
We were typical boys who always said "Music, again!" Once father asked us: "Maybe you do not
want to study?" We answered in the affirmative and that was the end of it. Father said: "Good, it
will be better for all of us, and you would not be disturbing me." I still regret that there
was no persistence on his part on this issue. Later, when I was about seventeen, I studied to
play the flute, Oleg independently tried to play the piano, and later, in England, the flute, too!
How about chess? You must have learned the game at an early
age. Did you play often with your father?
Father taught us to play chess, but rarely played with us. The (ability) gap was too big. In his
cabinet he always had on his piano a chessboard with pieces placed on it. He liked to
analyze games of masters, and solve chess problems organizing short breaks from work
for himself. He also liked to play chess by correspondence with strong players.
In his student years, while studying at the conservatory, Prokofiev frequented the Chess Club
in St. Petersburg, participated in chess tournaments, discussed and recorded games. We have
kept a book by World Champion Raúl Capablanca with a dedicatory inscription to father.